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		<title>Comment on Recall for rusting of sub-frame. by admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Took my 2003 Sonata to dealer at 9:00 am and they called me at 10:00 stating &lt;br /&gt; they were instilling a new sub-frame on vehicle. Provided me with a 2011 &lt;br /&gt; Sonata to drive and at 2:00 pm the same day called to say car was done. &lt;br /&gt; Everything was done at no cost. The new sub-frame also eliminated the &lt;br /&gt; suspension noise I had going over rough roads since the vehicle was new. I &lt;br /&gt; assume the original frame was not installed correctly. Vehicle now like new. &lt;br /&gt; Bob &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&quot;Cat&quot; &lt;A...@wowway.com&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;news:2JWdnR_uL46ADlbWnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@wow.com... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;&gt; Has anyone had their early 2000 Sonata&#039;s fixed for sub-frame rusting? What &lt;br /&gt; &gt; is involved and how long does it take for inspection and repair? &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Thanks, Bob &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Took my 2003 Sonata to dealer at 9:00 am and they called me at 10:00 stating <br /> they were instilling a new sub-frame on vehicle. Provided me with a 2011 <br /> Sonata to drive and at 2:00 pm the same day called to say car was done. <br /> Everything was done at no cost. The new sub-frame also eliminated the <br /> suspension noise I had going over rough roads since the vehicle was new. I <br /> assume the original frame was not installed correctly. Vehicle now like new. <br /> Bob <br /> 
<p>&quot;Cat&quot; &lt;A&#8230;@wowway.com&gt; wrote in message </p>
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<p>&gt; Has anyone had their early 2000 Sonata&#8217;s fixed for sub-frame rusting? What <br /> &gt; is involved and how long does it take for inspection and repair? <br /> &gt; Thanks, Bob </p>
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		<title>Comment on Recall for rusting of sub-frame. by admin</title>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Cat wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Has anyone had their early 2000 Sonata&#039;s fixed for sub-frame rusting? What &lt;br /&gt; &gt; is involved and how long does it take for inspection and repair? &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Thanks, Bob &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Yes, I had my 2002 Sonata LX done late last year. I left the car &lt;br /&gt; at the dealer, who said they would call me when it was done. When &lt;br /&gt; I called them three days later, it was ready :-(. It looked like &lt;br /&gt; they had it done the next day from the work order. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Apparently, they measure the thickness of the sub-frame and &lt;br /&gt; drill drain holes in it if it is still OK. Otherwise, they &lt;br /&gt; replace it. Mine got replaced, you could see it was brand new. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; They did the door handle recall at the same time. I was in the &lt;br /&gt; back of the Sonata last week, and found out: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; They don&#039;t replace the door handles. They put &quot;chrome&quot; stickers &lt;br /&gt; over them. The sticker on the rear started to peel off. &lt;br /&gt; *sigh* &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br /&gt; PB &lt;br /&gt; &quot;I suspect you&#039;re an arrogant little pissant who grew up in the &lt;br /&gt; Red Bull generation.&quot; - CJW &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cat wrote: <br /> &gt; Has anyone had their early 2000 Sonata&#8217;s fixed for sub-frame rusting? What <br /> &gt; is involved and how long does it take for inspection and repair? <br /> &gt; Thanks, Bob </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Yes, I had my 2002 Sonata LX done late last year. I left the car <br /> at the dealer, who said they would call me when it was done. When <br /> I called them three days later, it was ready <img src='http://www.auto-hyundai.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> . It looked like <br /> they had it done the next day from the work order.  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Apparently, they measure the thickness of the sub-frame and <br /> drill drain holes in it if it is still OK. Otherwise, they <br /> replace it. Mine got replaced, you could see it was brand new.  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; They did the door handle recall at the same time. I was in the <br /> back of the Sonata last week, and found out:  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; They don&#8217;t replace the door handles. They put &quot;chrome&quot; stickers <br /> over them. The sticker on the rear started to peel off. <br /> *sigh*  </p>
<p>&#8211; <br /> PB <br /> &quot;I suspect you&#8217;re an arrogant little pissant who grew up in the <br /> Red Bull generation.&quot; &#8211; CJW </p>
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		<title>Comment on What is that on my Santa Fe by admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Jim&quot; &lt;&quot; &quot;&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;news:9pCdnWP50ZvXDlbWnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@earthlink.com... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; We&#039;ve had our Santa Fe&#039;s for 3 years now and today discovered something on &lt;br /&gt; &gt; our dash. &#160;It is not referenced in the owner;s manual but is shown on the &lt;br /&gt; &gt; diagram. &#160;It is located above - maybe 1 1/2 inches - the ignition and &lt;br /&gt; &gt; perhaps 1/2 inch to the right. &#160;Perhaps it is a light for the ignition or &lt;br /&gt; &gt; a sensor for the A/C??? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Any one know? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; The observant ones! &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Temperature sensor for the climate control &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Jim&quot; &lt;&quot; &quot;&gt; wrote in message </p>
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<p>&gt; We&#8217;ve had our Santa Fe&#8217;s for 3 years now and today discovered something on <br /> &gt; our dash. &nbsp;It is not referenced in the owner;s manual but is shown on the <br /> &gt; diagram. &nbsp;It is located above &#8211; maybe 1 1/2 inches &#8211; the ignition and <br /> &gt; perhaps 1/2 inch to the right. &nbsp;Perhaps it is a light for the ignition or <br /> &gt; a sensor for the A/C???  </p>
<p>&gt; Any one know?  </p>
<p>&gt; The observant ones! </p>
<p>Temperature sensor for the climate control </p>
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		<title>Comment on Ipod Connection by admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Irwell wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Yes, but will take a few months. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Got it. &#160;Thanks for the quick response. &#160;Appreciated. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;...Zach &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irwell wrote: <br /> &gt;Yes, but will take a few months. </p>
<p>Got it. &nbsp;Thanks for the quick response. &nbsp;Appreciated.  </p>
<p>&#8230;Zach </p>
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		<title>Comment on Ipod Connection by admin</title>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 01:47:19 +0000 (UTC), zach wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; I recently bought a 2010 Elantra Touring Hatch. &#160;It came with a hookup &lt;br /&gt; &gt; cable for an Ipod that allows me to control the Ipod through the radio. &#160; &lt;br /&gt; &gt; What&#039;s unclear to me is whether the Ipod, if left attached to the cable, &lt;br /&gt; &gt; drains the battery if the radio and engine are turned off. &#160;Thanks for any &lt;br /&gt; &gt; info. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; ...Zach &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Yes, but will take a few months. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 01:47:19 +0000 (UTC), zach wrote: <br /> &gt; I recently bought a 2010 Elantra Touring Hatch. &nbsp;It came with a hookup <br /> &gt; cable for an Ipod that allows me to control the Ipod through the radio. &nbsp; <br /> &gt; What&#8217;s unclear to me is whether the Ipod, if left attached to the cable, <br /> &gt; drains the battery if the radio and engine are turned off. &nbsp;Thanks for any <br /> &gt; info.  </p>
<p>&gt; &#8230;Zach </p>
<p>Yes, but will take a few months. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Tachometer Questions (Elantra) by admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Bob&quot; &lt;rgs...@notme.invalid&gt; wrote in &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; a. &#160;Is this 1,500, nearly irrespective of the &lt;br /&gt; &gt; driving condition, normal ? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;RPM depends on gearing and speed. &#160;My Sonata cruises at 2000 rpm at 70 but &lt;br /&gt; will easily go to 4000 whith quick accelleration or red line under full &lt;br /&gt; throttle. &#160;If it never goes above 2k, something is wrong. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; b. &#160;Am I right that it is supposedly reading the rpm before the &lt;br /&gt; &gt; transmission gearing; in other words, the true engine rpm (only) ? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Yes &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; c. &#160;And, I guess I am always wondering why just about all the mfg&#039;s put &lt;br /&gt; &gt; tachs in their cars, even those with automatic transmissions. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; I can understgand if it&#039;s in a manual shifter, but for an auto ? &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Does anyone, ever, even look at the thing ? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Why have ? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I look at mine a lot. &#160;If the trans was starting to slip, I&#039;d see the rpm &lt;br /&gt; creep up under a given set of circumstances. &#160;I sometimes use the manual &lt;br /&gt; shifter and it tells me what the engine speed it. &#160; Yes, I can live without &lt;br /&gt; one, but I like having it. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Bob&quot; &lt;rgs&#8230;@notme.invalid&gt; wrote in  </p>
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<p>&gt; a. &nbsp;Is this 1,500, nearly irrespective of the <br /> &gt; driving condition, normal ? </p>
<p>RPM depends on gearing and speed. &nbsp;My Sonata cruises at 2000 rpm at 70 but <br /> will easily go to 4000 whith quick accelleration or red line under full <br /> throttle. &nbsp;If it never goes above 2k, something is wrong.  </p>
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<p>&gt; b. &nbsp;Am I right that it is supposedly reading the rpm before the <br /> &gt; transmission gearing; in other words, the true engine rpm (only) ? </p>
<p>Yes  </p>
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<p>&gt; c. &nbsp;And, I guess I am always wondering why just about all the mfg&#8217;s put <br /> &gt; tachs in their cars, even those with automatic transmissions.  </p>
<p>&gt; I can understgand if it&#8217;s in a manual shifter, but for an auto ? <br /> &gt; Does anyone, ever, even look at the thing ?  </p>
<p>&gt; Why have ? </p>
<p>I look at mine a lot. &nbsp;If the trans was starting to slip, I&#8217;d see the rpm <br /> creep up under a given set of circumstances. &nbsp;I sometimes use the manual <br /> shifter and it tells me what the engine speed it. &nbsp; Yes, I can live without <br /> one, but I like having it. </p>
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		<title>Comment on Question re:30k Service- Santa Fe by admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you! &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;hyundaitech wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; On May 8, 8:02 am, &quot;Uncle Vinnie&quot; &lt;vinri...@optonline.not.net&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; Which is pretty much the question I started with.. the manual seems &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; to have the minimum service needed... a few places have told me that &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; beyond 30k, antifreeze components break down.....50k for tranny.. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; the million dollar question is always &#039;who&#039;s right..&#039;... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt; bobmct wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; On Fri, 7 May 2010 15:14:22 -0400, &quot;Uncle Vinnie&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;vinri...@optonline.not.net&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi, Ed.. stopped at an independant who advised to do the tranny &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; fluid at 50k.. that leaves the coolant flush.. is that hard to &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; do??? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Uncle Vinnie wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Thanks Ed.. I can see the extras... coolant, tranny...those make &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; sense, and might also be the ones on my local dealers list.... I &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; think I will look into these.... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Ed Pawlowski wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;Uncle Vinnie&quot; &lt;vinri...@optonline.not.net&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; news:4bd8766e$0$22536$607ed4bc@cv.net... &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Thanks Ed.... I had a feeling.. I agree, most reads &#039;inspect&#039;... &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; which was done at the oil change anyway, as well as rotate &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; tires.. I replaced the airfilters myself, Cabin/engine... never &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; found the &#039;gas tank air filter&#039;... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I would have to believe that by follwing the manual, all s/b &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ok... I was hoping there wasn&#039;t anything I might have &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; overlooked....something really big... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Just looked at my dealer&#039;s &quot;menu&quot; for the 30k service and it is &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; $495. The 4WD SUV is $595. It is an oil change, tire rotation, &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; engine coolant, trans fluid, air cleaner, pcv valve and wiper &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; blades. Everything else is just inspection. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Regular oil changes are fairly priced at $35.95 but the 7500 mile &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; service is $89.95 and amounts to paying $50 for tire rotation &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and a couple of more inspections. I don&#039;t do tire rotations &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; myself any more , but by itself, it is $30 and most shops would &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; charge that amount. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Excuse me for jumping in but my &#039;07 Santa Fe just rolled over 40K &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; today. I was checing my owners manual and I see the tranny fluid &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; scheduled for 75K and the coolant at 60K. Also it requires the &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; valves be adjusted at 60K. So, do we have different manuals? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On my PT when I needed the coolant changed I visited a VOIC who did &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; it for around $40 and actually connected a contraption that sucked &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; on one end and fed new coolant on the otehr and it tool about 5 &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; minutes while I sat in the car and watched. Besides being more &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; convenient is was far less expensive than the dealer charges. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Later - B &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt; -- &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; Thanks &amp; B&#039;rgds, &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt; Uncle Vinnie &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Hyundai&#039;s service intervals for the newer cars such as your Santa Fe &lt;br /&gt; &gt; are 5 years/60k miles for the original coolant replacement and 2 &lt;br /&gt; &gt; years/ 30k thereafter, and 7 years/15k miles for the automatic &lt;br /&gt; &gt; transmission fluid. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; I always had difficulty recommending coolant services based on &lt;br /&gt; &gt; mileage; what bad things happen due to pumping it through the engine? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Similarly, I always had difficulty recommending transmission services &lt;br /&gt; &gt; based on time; what happens to the fluid while it&#039;s sitting there &lt;br /&gt; &gt; doing nothing? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;-- &lt;br /&gt; Thanks &amp; B&#039;rgds, &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Uncle Vinnie &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>hyundaitech wrote: <br /> &gt; On May 8, 8:02 am, &quot;Uncle Vinnie&quot; &lt;vinri&#8230;@optonline.not.net&gt; wrote: <br /> &gt;&gt; Which is pretty much the question I started with.. the manual seems <br /> &gt;&gt; to have the minimum service needed&#8230; a few places have told me that <br /> &gt;&gt; beyond 30k, antifreeze components break down&#8230;..50k for tranny.. <br /> &gt;&gt; the million dollar question is always &#8216;who&#8217;s right..&#8217;&#8230; <br /> 
<p>&gt;&gt; bobmct wrote: <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt; On Fri, 7 May 2010 15:14:22 -0400, &quot;Uncle Vinnie&quot; <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;vinri&#8230;@optonline.not.net&gt; wrote:  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi, Ed.. stopped at an independant who advised to do the tranny <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; fluid at 50k.. that leaves the coolant flush.. is that hard to <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; do???  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Uncle Vinnie wrote: <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Thanks Ed.. I can see the extras&#8230; coolant, tranny&#8230;those make <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; sense, and might also be the ones on my local dealers list&#8230;. I <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; think I will look into these&#8230;.  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Ed Pawlowski wrote: <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;Uncle Vinnie&quot; &lt;vinri&#8230;@optonline.not.net&gt; wrote in message <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; news:4bd8766e$0$22536$607ed4bc@cv.net&#8230; <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Thanks Ed&#8230;. I had a feeling.. I agree, most reads &#8216;inspect&#8217;&#8230; <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; which was done at the oil change anyway, as well as rotate <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; tires.. I replaced the airfilters myself, Cabin/engine&#8230; never <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; found the &#8216;gas tank air filter&#8217;&#8230;  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I would have to believe that by follwing the manual, all s/b <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ok&#8230; I was hoping there wasn&#8217;t anything I might have <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; overlooked&#8230;.something really big&#8230;  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Just looked at my dealer&#8217;s &quot;menu&quot; for the 30k service and it is <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; $495. The 4WD SUV is $595. It is an oil change, tire rotation, <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; engine coolant, trans fluid, air cleaner, pcv valve and wiper <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; blades. Everything else is just inspection.  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Regular oil changes are fairly priced at $35.95 but the 7500 mile <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; service is $89.95 and amounts to paying $50 for tire rotation <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and a couple of more inspections. I don&#8217;t do tire rotations <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; myself any more , but by itself, it is $30 and most shops would <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; charge that amount.  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; Excuse me for jumping in but my &#8217;07 Santa Fe just rolled over 40K <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt; today. I was checing my owners manual and I see the tranny fluid <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt; scheduled for 75K and the coolant at 60K. Also it requires the <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt; valves be adjusted at 60K. So, do we have different manuals?  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; On my PT when I needed the coolant changed I visited a VOIC who did <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt; it for around $40 and actually connected a contraption that sucked <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt; on one end and fed new coolant on the otehr and it tool about 5 <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt; minutes while I sat in the car and watched. Besides being more <br /> &gt;&gt;&gt; convenient is was far less expensive than the dealer charges.  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; Later &#8211; B  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt; &#8212; <br /> &gt;&gt; Thanks &amp; B&#8217;rgds,  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt; Uncle Vinnie  </p>
<p>&gt; Hyundai&#8217;s service intervals for the newer cars such as your Santa Fe <br /> &gt; are 5 years/60k miles for the original coolant replacement and 2 <br /> &gt; years/ 30k thereafter, and 7 years/15k miles for the automatic <br /> &gt; transmission fluid.  </p>
<p>&gt; I always had difficulty recommending coolant services based on <br /> &gt; mileage; what bad things happen due to pumping it through the engine?  </p>
<p>&gt; Similarly, I always had difficulty recommending transmission services <br /> &gt; based on time; what happens to the fluid while it&#8217;s sitting there <br /> &gt; doing nothing? </p>
<p>&#8211; <br /> Thanks &amp; B&#8217;rgds,  </p>
<p>Uncle Vinnie </p>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;hyundaitech wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Hyundai&#039;s service intervals for the newer cars such as your Santa Fe &lt;br /&gt; &gt; are 5 years/60k miles for the original coolant replacement and 2 years/ &lt;br /&gt; &gt; 30k thereafter, and 7 years/15k miles for the automatic transmission &lt;br /&gt; &gt; fluid. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; I always had difficulty recommending coolant services based on &lt;br /&gt; &gt; mileage; what bad things happen due to pumping it through the engine? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Similarly, I always had difficulty recommending transmission services &lt;br /&gt; &gt; based on time; what happens to the fluid while it&#039;s sitting there &lt;br /&gt; &gt; doing nothing? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Welcome back! &#160;Where ya been? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Matt &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>&gt; Hyundai&#8217;s service intervals for the newer cars such as your Santa Fe <br /> &gt; are 5 years/60k miles for the original coolant replacement and 2 years/ <br /> &gt; 30k thereafter, and 7 years/15k miles for the automatic transmission <br /> &gt; fluid.  </p>
<p>&gt; I always had difficulty recommending coolant services based on <br /> &gt; mileage; what bad things happen due to pumping it through the engine?  </p>
<p>&gt; Similarly, I always had difficulty recommending transmission services <br /> &gt; based on time; what happens to the fluid while it&#8217;s sitting there <br /> &gt; doing nothing? </p>
<p>Welcome back! &nbsp;Where ya been?  </p>
<p>Matt </p>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Voyager&quot; &lt;m.whit...@computer.org&gt; wrote &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; What are the make and model of these 49 year-old cars that you are &lt;br /&gt; &gt; driving? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Matt &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;OK, they were different ones. &#160;Three of them though, I never put any water &lt;br /&gt; or anti-freeze in them and they ran just fine. &#160;Amazing huh? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>&gt; What are the make and model of these 49 year-old cars that you are <br /> &gt; driving?  </p>
<p>&gt; Matt </p>
<p>OK, they were different ones. &nbsp;Three of them though, I never put any water <br /> or anti-freeze in them and they ran just fine. &nbsp;Amazing huh? </p>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Uncle Vinnie wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Which is pretty much the question I started with.. the manual seems to have &lt;br /&gt; &gt; the minimum service needed... a few places have told me that beyond 30k, &lt;br /&gt; &gt; antifreeze components break down.....50k for tranny.. the million dollar &lt;br /&gt; &gt; question is always &#039;who&#039;s right..&#039;... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I tend to err on the side of caution and change most fluids according to &lt;br /&gt; the severe service schedule. &#160;For example, the normal schedule for my &lt;br /&gt; Sonata never requires that the tranny oil be changed, however, the &lt;br /&gt; severe service calls for changes every 60K. &#160;I have changed the &lt;br /&gt; gear/transmission oils in my past vehicles at least every 50-60K and &lt;br /&gt; will do so with the Sonata. &#160;It may not be necessary, but it is pretty &lt;br /&gt; cheap insurance and I keep my vehicles a long time unless they are &lt;br /&gt; lemons. &#160;My 94 Chevy pickup is going strong at 16 years and 120,000 &lt;br /&gt; miles. &#160;My 03 Dodge Grand Caravan has nearly 130,000 miles and my &quot;new&quot; &lt;br /&gt; vehicle is my 06 Sonata which now has 61,000. &#160;That is if you exclude my &lt;br /&gt; 07 BMW K1200LT which has nearly 18,000 now. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I figure a few extra bucks over the course of 15 years and 200,000 miles &lt;br /&gt; isn&#039;t that much of a waste even it is really isn&#039;t absolutely necessary. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Matt &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uncle Vinnie wrote: <br /> &gt; Which is pretty much the question I started with.. the manual seems to have <br /> &gt; the minimum service needed&#8230; a few places have told me that beyond 30k, <br /> &gt; antifreeze components break down&#8230;..50k for tranny.. the million dollar <br /> &gt; question is always &#8216;who&#8217;s right..&#8217;&#8230; </p>
<p>I tend to err on the side of caution and change most fluids according to <br /> the severe service schedule. &nbsp;For example, the normal schedule for my <br /> Sonata never requires that the tranny oil be changed, however, the <br /> severe service calls for changes every 60K. &nbsp;I have changed the <br /> gear/transmission oils in my past vehicles at least every 50-60K and <br /> will do so with the Sonata. &nbsp;It may not be necessary, but it is pretty <br /> cheap insurance and I keep my vehicles a long time unless they are <br /> lemons. &nbsp;My 94 Chevy pickup is going strong at 16 years and 120,000 <br /> miles. &nbsp;My 03 Dodge Grand Caravan has nearly 130,000 miles and my &quot;new&quot; <br /> vehicle is my 06 Sonata which now has 61,000. &nbsp;That is if you exclude my <br /> 07 BMW K1200LT which has nearly 18,000 now.  </p>
<p>I figure a few extra bucks over the course of 15 years and 200,000 miles <br /> isn&#8217;t that much of a waste even it is really isn&#8217;t absolutely necessary.  </p>
<p>Matt </p>
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